Anyone know of a FOSS type kids messenger?


cross-posted from: lemmy.today/post/63107763

I'm looking for something like Snikket or Prosody, but kids-oriented. I DON'T want my <10 daughter using Meta Messenger Kids! I'll tell my friends to setup for their kids, too. I'd have no access to anything, so it's secure (mom and dad not snooping per se), but the downside is minimal parental controls. Though, no one to really add either.

I'll host or pay for it, IDC. It doesn't seem like there is much out there either.

JusTalk seemed nice when I found out but apparently China owned and so no more secure. I/we need better options!

in reply to Onomatopoeia

Selfhosting both. Continuwuity is more straightforward to set up than ejabberd, mostly because of easier docs, less ports, and less subdomains required. It also comes with most things you need rather than a bunch of toggled-on modules, and I'd say Matrix being HTTP makes it more "conventional" for beginners.

XMPP is significantly more lightweight though, being a message passing protocol rather than state syncing.

in reply to CMDR_Horn

I would love to see the success rate of getting the parents of the child's friend to set up a matrix client for their child's one friend that doesn't use anything they do.

Help your child embrace not needing to be constantly in communication with her friends, to (gasp) use the phone .... or accept and monitor the evil empires' offerings but no matter what you do, don't for one second think you'll get a single family to set up a matrix client for "that one kid".

in reply to Tolookah

Yes I have a couple sources. I hate to link a YT video, so I'll use invidious. Both are great informative videos, but I don't want to take up your time.

However, check this link first because it might be speculation without hard evidence, while other evidence points to them doing this exact thing but for adults or people 13+
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2…

Its at the very end at 10 minutes
redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=…

Also here at 12:25 mark on the video
redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=…

in reply to Tolookah

I'm not in the situation yet, but once i have kids I'll tell my parents that, if i ever see a picture of my kids in any of those bs platforms (fb, Whatsapp..) they'll never get another picture.
parents have the ultimate decision about such things, if somebody else doesn't respect your decision, they need to live with the consequences.

it might sound harsh, but seems to be the only really working strategy. i gave up explaining them stuff over a decade ago.

in reply to unitedwithme

For Matrix, what server software are you hosting and what's your subdomain setup? When logging in, you just enter the domain behind your username (e.g. use example.com if your username is @user:example.com)

Edit: not sure if Snikket supports multiple domains, but its upstream, the Prosody server, does that just fine

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in reply to unitedwithme

I would go with Deltachat. There is no public directory of anything, so it's impossible to know who is/isn't there or randomly contact anyone. The only ways to start a conversation/follow someone are:
- scan qr codes, so you need physical presence and it's easy to see when there is no consent
- clicking on a random link

It i safe to tell your kids to not click on random links, so it's the safest way for kids to not randomly come into contact of people

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in reply to unitedwithme

These kinds of thoughts are good ones. I wish I was more skilled in software development to build solutions for the younger ones in my family.

As a Business Analyst I would ask - What kind of feature would you look for in a messaging app for young people I care about. I guess for me it would include things like:

Ability to:
Control who the can communicate with
See the communications they send and receive
Limit their ability to add new people (or have an approval step that involved me or their parents )

I'm guessing that once you have an idea of the requirements - appropriate clients could be built on any of the technologies we have like XMPP or Matrix.

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