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Introducing Calendars, Contacts and Files in Stalwart | Stalwart Labs

We’re excited to announce the release of Stalwart v0.12, a significant milestone that evolves Stalwart from a powerful mail server into a complete, integrated communication and collaboration platform.
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Shimitar
Shimitar
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I had to give up on stalwart because on 4gb ram dual core with mechanical HDD the performance for a single account domain was abysmal and after some support back and forth there was no solution.

On the same hardware the good old postfix+dovecot just handles perfectly with 90% spare capacity

Sorry guys, maybe it was time to optimize it a bit before adding more features?

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aksdb
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It's a 0.x release. It makes sense building the intended features first before optimizing heavily. There's no point having an optimized data structure that then falls flat once you need to add new features that brings new requirements to the data structure.

Once they label it 1.x (i.e. feature complete and production ready) I would expect it to be optimized. If it isn't, criticism is warranted.

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Victor
Victor
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Are we sure they are using semantic versioning?
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aksdb
aksdb
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We can ask, but the indicators are there:

  • it has roadmap with bigger features that slowly shrinks as they get implemented
  • new versions still bring big reworks (I think this is the third time now that the data structure is being migrated)
  • optimizations happen between the versions
  • benchmarks are still on the horizon
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Shimitar
Shimitar
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Stalwart probably aims a bigger infra than mine, i think that is the point.
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aksdb
aksdb
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It aims at both, otherwise it wouldn't ship with sqlite and rocksdb. Stalwarts default is clearly for single node setups and expanding it to clustering takes further steps. So while it supports large scale deployments, it should not be limited to it.
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warmaster
warmaster
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They have improved performance in this release, although judging from their release notes it is targeting larger infra, so I don't believe these improvements would benefit your setup. Still, good news for software this new.
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abeorch
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Their licencing suggests they are targetting larger infra.

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warmaster
warmaster
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Yeah, that's what I said in the post you're replying to. Is this a case of weird cross-platform federation?
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abeorch
abeorch
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I was just agreeding and suggesting that their monetisation strategy is licencing hence the reason for improvements for Enterprise clusters rather than focusing on Self Hosting is the money.

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warmaster
warmaster
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Ahora entiendo tu comentario, gracias por clarificar.
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Stalwart Labs
Stalwart Labs
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That's probably because you were using RocksDB as a backend, which does not work well on mechanical HDDs. Try using PostgreSQL instead.
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Shimitar
Shimitar
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I did, we discussed this on an issue and a github discussion. It was still too slow and saturating my low spec machine, no matter which backends I tried to use.

Probably my hardware is just too underpowered.

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warmaster
warmaster
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Being one of the few JMAP servers, adding these features is great although there's still some things yet to consider. The iCalendar standard also includes tasks and notes and Stalwart hasn't implemented those yet. Calendar scheduling is coming in the next few months, so that's good news.

I can't wait until service providers in privacy respecting countries start using complete solutions that enable users to really replace Google with a standards compliant alternative.

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Stalwart Labs
Stalwart Labs
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The iCalendar standard also includes tasks and notes and Stalwart hasn’t implemented those yet.


That's incorrect. Stalwart supports every single iCalendar IANA registered component and that certainly includes VTODO and VJOURNAL.

iCalendar Element Registries

www.iana.org
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warmaster
warmaster
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That's great news! I didn't know that. Is there a Stalwart service provider in the EU ?
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paperd
paperd
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Did they split the contacts and calendars into their own rust crates? It'd be awesome to have it as a standalone.
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Stalwart Labs
Stalwart Labs
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Only the iCal/vCard parser and serializer, it is available at github.com/stalwartlabs/calcar…

GitHub - stalwartlabs/calcard: iCalendar/vCard parser and generator

iCalendar/vCard parser and generator. Contribute to stalwartlabs/calcard development by creating an account on GitHub.
GitHub
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trewq
trewq
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Can I use IMAP only for archiving my old emails?
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aksdb
aksdb
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Yes. You can simply not expose SMTP at all and just use the IMAP/JMAP part. Unless you need also JMAP, I am not sure it brings you a lot to the table you wouldn't also get from a good old dovecot. IMO the big advantage of Stalwart is the all-in-one package it delivers plus the good defaults. It also shines when you want a multi node deployment. For a single node IMAP only it might not be the best choice, in my opinion. But it would work, if you want to.
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trewq
trewq
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All my need is imap for old email. Jmap +others are not xtras that i dont need. I’ll look at dovecot. Thanks
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