TikTok reportedly plans ‘immediate’ Sunday shutdown in the US if it’s banned
TikTok reportedly plans ‘immediate’ Sunday shutdown in the US if it’s banned
TikTok could shut down entirely on Sunday if the US federal ban isn’t paused, despite the ban only immediately requiring app stores to stop offering downloads.Wes Davis (The Verge)
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themurphy
in reply to misk • • •Do it. Let the US be a closed censored state like it desperately wants to be.
They'll even put the hashtag #freespeach when they deliver their ban.
unlawfulbooger
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in reply to themurphy • • •cm0002
in reply to lurch (he/him) • • •NineMileTower
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in reply to misk • • •Riskable
in reply to small44 • • •Yes but diversity is good 👍
Why let the Chinese get all the eyeballs for propaganda? Surely we should give other nations a chance?
IMHO they should shut down every app that is both popular and has an exceedingly difficult to penetrate monopoly. Let the competitors rush in and do a it again when the same situation occurs!
NineMileTower
in reply to small44 • • •djsoren19
in reply to small44 • • •chronicledmonocle
in reply to misk • • •Any social media that you isn't open and self hostable (Lemmy, Mastodon, etc) should not be used. That includes Facebook, Instagram, Twitter/X, TikTok, and more.
Most social media has, IMHO, been a net-negative for society and I am in the generation that grew up with it in its infancy.
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BaroqueInMind
in reply to chronicledmonocle • • •Baron Von J
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in reply to Baron Von J • • •abeorch
in reply to Baron Von J • •What do you mean? I'm posting from a #Friendica account to #mastodon, #lemmy and #pixelfed - One account. no worries
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Baron Von J
in reply to abeorch • • •Lemmy sits a bit apart from the rest in that it doesn't quite work for direct person-to-person interaction. Following Lemmy discussions on Mastodon is possible but clunky and Lemmy doesn't quite know how to quiet all the @ mentions and things in comments made from Mastodon so they look really loud/busy. I can see Lemmy communities from Firefish but I don't see any of the posts/comments (maybe I have to follow one first?). I've never tried following Lemmy from Pixelfed.
But each of those platforms has a different UI. The experience and features posting media on Pixelfed is much different. But I still have to setup a separate Pixelfed instance account if I want to make use of them. And my data will thus be spread across those instances. And people will need to follow both the Mastodon and Pixelfed accounts if they want to see both sets of posts. I'd love to just hat the one identity to manage with my content from all platforms associated with it.
abeorch
in reply to Baron Von J • •Use #Friendica - #lemmy works well there for me - you also got to realise there is a lot of playing around with UIs in different client apps - #Fedilab #racoon plus so many more
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yokonzo
in reply to chronicledmonocle • • •chronicledmonocle
in reply to yokonzo • • •Sabata
in reply to yokonzo • • •cm0002
in reply to misk • • •Before the tankies get mad about the "censorship" of the US while failing to mention the LONG list of things you can get straight up arrested for in China
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NaibofTabr
in reply to cm0002 • • •Or have a "tea drinking" session:
Why? because she's LGBTQ+, has a Uyghur partner, and has some friends in Western nations.
reference: hackingbutlegal.com/p/naomi-wu…
https://x.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1177145458503737344
EXCLUSIVE: Naomi Wu and the Silence That Speaks Volumes
Jackie Singh (Hacking, but Legal)Riskable
in reply to misk • • •Reminder: TikTok is not actually important. Everyone can live their lives without TikTok, YouTube, etc. There's an infinite amount of ways to entertain ourselves and there's a lot of competing apps.
This isn't the government abusing its power to shut down some small business/upstart. It's shutting down a serious national security threat and a monopoly. TikTok has abused their position many times in many ways, refused to cooperate, and has reached the, "find out" phase.
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in reply to Riskable • • •shoulderoforion
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in reply to NineMileTower • • •NineMileTower
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Obinice
in reply to Riskable • • •I've never even looked at it. Vine was pretty cool but then it died, Periscope was neat, but I dunno, something about Tiktok feels predatory, how addictive it is (from what I've seen of others using it).
Plus while they're all as bad as each other, I still trust China less than Microsoft with my stuff, so yeah. I'm just not interested in it and don't really see the appeal for myself. But I see why it's popular and it's not like, terrible, as a concept.
can
in reply to Obinice • • •I'm bothered that the app is 2gb.
why?
Nusm
in reply to can • • •can
in reply to Nusm • • •Buelldozer
in reply to Riskable • • •I was an adult before YT and I don't want to go back to a time before it existed. It's just too damn useful as a self education tool. Need to learn how to DIY a plumbing problem? Youtube. Need to learn how to subnet a network? Youtube. Interested in the History of Moldova? Youtube.
I finished my basement by watching youtube videos and learning how to do everything from framing to electrical to drywall to finishing work. There isn't anywhere else you can freely get the same breadth of knowledge on-demand.
ianonavy
in reply to Riskable • • •I don’t entirely agree. TikTok isn’t just silly dances, thirst traps, and trends—it has played a significant role in community organizing and coalition-building across social movements. Consider the university Pro-Palestine encampments or mainstream news reporting on social media reaction to the United Healthcare CEO’s killing. Neither is solely attributable to TikTok, but the scale and nature of discussion on the platform have demonstrably influenced real-world conversation and activism. Another example is Keith Lee’s viral restaurant reviews transforming the viability of small mom and pop businesses overnight.
What sets TikTok apart isn’t just its massive reach (150 million monthly active users, nearly half the US population) but also its algorithm and features that enable collaborative, asynchronous discussion. Unlike YouTube Shorts or Instagram Reels, where content is mostly one-off entertainment with fleeting comment sections, TikTok fosters actual conversations. Features like stitching allow users to directly respond to others, creating an evolving discourse where users can trace context. At times, entire feeds become dominated by discussion of a single topic—sometimes celebrity gossip, but often major events like October 7 or the United Healthcare CEO killing. This level of organic, large-scale discourse doesn’t happen the same way on other platforms. A great example of this dynamic was when TikTok users collectively decided to migrate to the actually Chinese app XiaoHongShu specifically to spite the US government. That didn’t just happen—it was discussed and coordinated.
In my view, TikTok is a national security threat not because of unproven claims about data leaks or state-authored propaganda, but because it provides an already restless and dissatisfied population with a real platform to discuss issues and organize. If a decentralized, open-source alternative existed at scale, TikTok itself wouldn’t be necessary. I acknowledge that TikTok—like any centralized platform—has real issues, particularly around privacy and censorship. But until such a decentralized alternative gains traction, TikTok remains important. And even then, I doubt the US government would be any more comfortable with a decentralized version, since it still wouldn’t give them control over what discussions take place.
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yeehaw
in reply to misk • • •sunzu2
in reply to misk • • •Gen z better prep for 'em withdrawls... They love telling how they don't drink or do drugs haha
Let's see how they will cope.
Some app is about to explode
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in reply to alcoholicorn • • •Corkyskog
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alcoholicorn
in reply to sunzu2 • • •No, it'll probably take weeks to days; with the new law the president can unilaterally ban any foreign-owned app with 1 million users.
Watch Biden ban it on Jan 19th as a final fuck you.
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TommySoda
in reply to misk • • •misk
in reply to TommySoda • • •IIRC TikTok is rather top heavy in terms of income and this highest tier of influencers is diversified across all media channels anyway.
Regular folk have better luck making money on YouTube and Instagram so TikTok creators are unusual bunch. In my experience (which is very likely shaped by the algorithm) they are a mix of talent show performers, odd personalities and no longer relevant one hit wonders that got lucky. They’re mostly sad about losing that space because it’s so different to alternatives. I don’t think anyone that doesn’t have much money feels in power anymore so what are they going to do?
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Corkyskog
in reply to misk • • •Yeah, but those affiliate links made people bank, especially during the holidays.
I actually got like half my ideas and my daughters from the tiktok shop. (Then went and bought it on Aliexpress)
Pika
in reply to TommySoda • • •recreationalcatheter
in reply to misk • • •Cool
Bye tiktok
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in reply to recreationalcatheter • • •shoulderoforion
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Cycle0861
in reply to shoulderoforion • • •shininghero
in reply to misk • • •Aatube
in reply to shininghero • • •There's a ton of domestic TikTok clones already, like Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts.
They already have.
With a TikTok Ban Looming, Users Flee to Chinese App ‘Red Note’ - Technology - Mbin
kbin.melroy.orgBaron Von J
in reply to shininghero • • •Doesn't look like it to me. I tried to sign up yesterday and haven't received the validation email.
Edit: and the UI was very barren and minimal on the video I watched.
NineMileTower
in reply to shininghero • • •Nowhere near imo. Download the app and see for yourself. It needs WORK.
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in reply to misk • • •DocumentingReality
in reply to misk • • •If you have $50 Billion, you can buy Tiktok.
I read that Elon Musk might buy it. But the CEO of Tiktok stated that, it isn't true.
Why would he even need another social media? Besides, dictating what he wants on that site...and make it worse?
I like when Jack Dorsey ran Twitter. It is a crap hole now on there.
As for Tiktok, it won't matter to me since I am not on there.
bdonvr
in reply to DocumentingReality • • •Not if they're not selling
ramenshaman
in reply to misk • • •Optional
in reply to misk • • •Cool.
Cool cool cool.
RememberTheApollo_
in reply to misk • • •Ok.
(I bet tiktok doesn’t shut down, but if it does I can’t wait for my kids to tell me about all the meltdowns at middle school over tiktok shutting down. Too many parents let their kids have unfettered internet access. No, mine don’t have tiktok.)
GooberEar
in reply to misk • • •A lot of people are saying that the US government banned TikTok, but from what I'm understanding, that's not really what happened and what's happening. Or have I misinterpreted things? From what I understand, they were told they had to divest and sell, but they fought that and now are opting to shutdown rather than comply. Is that not the case?
Either way, I'm gonna go all "I walked to school uphill both ways barefoot in a meter of snow" on this and say that my very little experience with TikTok users seems to suggest that its not much more than pure, unadulterated brain rot. So regardless of the fact(s) (i.e. shutdown / banned / etc), there's maybe the tiniest sliver of a net positive here. Or not. It doesn't affect me one way or the other and given where this country is politically (as well as where it is headed), I don't give a rat poopoo.
crystalmerchant
in reply to misk • • •rob200
in reply to misk • • •“They” say they are banning it over national security concerns I think it’s deeper then that. They can’t have a socialist like platform having an audience. Which in my opinion is why they wanted to force a sell or just ban Tiktok.
I don’t think, that they will go after Rednote if it doesn’t gain popularity the way that Tiktok did.