Do you know of a community that could use their own Federated mapping server? Please DM me.
In six weeks, I've made TONS of progress on Atlas Maps, and I'm confident with real people using it in the field.
So I spent this morning reaching out to a handful of integrators and consultants, but I can't find everyone.
Please help me reach out to the activists, builders, and organizers you know who need to map local events in their communities.
Who should I contact next?
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The Nexus of Privacy
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in reply to The Nexus of Privacy • • •Yes. Both of these are on my radar -- particularly Gancio, because it would also help out the #Bandwagon project.
Basically, everything is #ActivityPub, so we should just be able to crawl other sites for the posts they publish. It may take a little work to discover posts and to massage them into the right format (Mobilizon's address formats make me sad) but all the plumbing is already there.
Tanguy ⧓ Herrmann
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in reply to Tanguy ⧓ Herrmann • • •Actually, I should take that back. Mobilizon's address format is fine. I'm just being cranky.
Mobilizon is doing something custom --because Activity Vocabulary doesn't define a standard for addresses.
So, Mobilizon is using schema.org definitions instead, which are probably the next best thing.
In general, address formatting *anything* is a hot mess. Every different organization uses something almost the same but slightly different from everyone else.
Helge
in reply to Ben Pate 🤘🏻 • • •Are you trying to be an interoperability problem creating jokster?
Also UNCHAIN THE BUFFALO. If I was in college, I would now lobby to steal UC Boulder's mascot, so I get something cute to cuddle.
Atlas Demo -
atlasdemo.emissary.socialBen Pate 🤘🏻
in reply to Helge • • •@helge
There's apparently a whole security apparatus around "Ralphie" the Buffalo. Even her handlers don't exactly know where she lives. I think the Air Force Academy kidnapped her once, so they instituted James Bond level security: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralphie_…
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As for the Not type - you're right, it should be a single value (ActivityPub spec be damned).
Anyway, It's fixed on the demo site now. Check out this awesome commit :) github.com/EmissarySocial/atla…
ActivityPub: "type" should not be an array · EmissarySocial/atlas@62063dd
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in reply to Helge • • •@helge I will never understand how "University of Colorado, Boulder" becomes "CU Boulder". It's just weird.
But it's not the weirdest thing going on in Boulder, and I won't get dragged into the big-endian, little-endian debate. :)
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Only 2 names for the same University?
TCD, aka Trinity College Dublin, aka Dublin University, aka The University Of Dublin, aka "The Provost, Fellows, Foundation Scholars and the other members of Board of the College of the Holy and Undivided Trinity of Queen Elizabeth near Dublin", would like a word (or 25).
The College and the University were founded (by royal charter) in 1592, and defined as one body by a High Court case in 1898.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_…
constituent college of the University of Dublin in Ireland
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Michal Špondr
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in reply to Michal Špondr • • •@michal That would be awesome. I'm putting the base tech out there, but probably can't develop a full Foursquare on my own. I'm hoping some others can jump in the fire with me to take this further.
If you know anyone who's good with HTML, Javascript, and basic data modelling, I'd love to get their help!
abeorch
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in reply to abeorch • • •@abeorch @michal
Yes, it would. There's two aspects to this:
General ActivityPub Interop
This *should* work with Friendica now, but I have a task on the project board to verify and tweak as necessary.
Building Into Friendica
I don't know its code base, but there's no reason Friendica couldn't do this, but it would take some work. This uses features that (I think) only Emissary has at the moment: search queries that natively implement ActivityPub actors, and a bunch of geospatial code, too.
abeorch
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Yes. At the end of the day, the Fediverse is better because all these different projects can work together seamlessly. There can’t be one über system that does everything — but many, many different things that absolutely crush their own little niches.
abeorch
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lgsp
in reply to Ben Pate 🤘🏻 • • •This is so cool! Original idea, and the execution looks really good.
I hope the best possible future for this!
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abeorch
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in reply to abeorch • • •@abeorch
Sure! There's tons to do -- and I'm happy to take guidance, suggestions, code commits from anyone who's interested. Atlas itself is very simple (just HTML + Javascript) because all the hard work is done by #Emissary
Since you're already familiar with Friendica AND Open Street Map, so you're probably already more of a subject matter expert than me.
So where do YOU think we should take this technology?
abeorch
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in reply to abeorch • • •@abeorch @moji
Yes. Every new implementation will require some additional integrations in the core server. Atlas (for instance) required a ton of new geographic services.
But I DIDN'T have to rebuild the user ActivityPub integration, user authentication, image processing, ... you get the idea.
By necessity, all Fediverse apps have tons in common. Much than the surface issues that separates them. So #Emissary is that common core, with a programmable layer on top to support different needs.
abeorch
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in reply to Ben Pate 🤘🏻 • •) - so that an agency could offer organisations both a activitypub based server and cross posting capabilities
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in reply to Ben Pate 🤘🏻 • •MapComplete
in reply to abeorch • • •@abeorch @openstreetmap #openstreetMap is centralized by design, as there is (generally) only a single truth that we should agree on. Sharding the OSM data into multiple versions is unmaintainable on the long run.
Having your changesets available on the #fediverse however is somewhat cool, and something we're already doing with a little bot: @mapcomplete_edits
However, only a fraction of the OSM-community would probably want this.
abeorch
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Cool 😎 there are so many unexpected uses coming up for this. I wouldn’t know how to reach mobile gamers like this, but I’d be happy to help you set up a server, if you’re interested!
abeorch
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Sure. I’m up for working with anyone.
There’s a few “spoken word” albums on Bandwagon.fm, but I haven’t really cracked *podcasts* yet. That would probably take some improvements to the RSS that we auto-generate. So in this case, we might not be ready for them.
Or, are you thinking of this from another angle?
abeorch
in reply to Ben Pate 🤘🏻 • •Hi Ben sorry slow reply to this - As always life continues to be a serious of craziness. Classic sorry for the random reply as well as I haven't had time to really get my thoughts together.
I've just started to try out #Podcini so still getting a feel for that.
I also found minipub.dev/ - a framework for Commenting on podcasts which I thought was interesting (Maybe more from the use cases it identifies ) and I think covers what I was thinking - Basically your Podcast app provides a stream of what you listen to and allows you (and others ) to share comments and forward songs/programmes that you recommend to others.
This approach of having comments tied to a thing works across other domains (locations, activities that you do) basically anything that could be tied to a URI
But you are right - there is a need to sketch out some use cases and user journeys and see what the interest is and whether there are others that might have the capability to bring some effort to bare against them.
At the risk of rambling - That's something that I find hard to figure out with Opensource - not all people who are users have the capability to develop/build and hence there is a squew in what is developed.
Rambling back to the point about these use cases - There is also a challenge around identity - Do you want separate accounts to post updates on your running, listening, openstreetmap updates - or do you want to link/bring those all together under one identity/account. (I guess plugins that operate under a Friendica account would do this second approach)