Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.
The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog ๐
However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:
โก๏ธ about.fedigroups.social/home
FediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.
(More info about #Guppe situation: github.com/immers-space/guppe/โฆ )
Guppe is dead?
Hey @wmurphyrd ๐ I notice as of September 2025, the domains gup.pe and immers.space seem to have expired and a.gup.pe has been replaced with a WordPress installation full of SEO-targeted content ab...mattcoxonline (GitHub)
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The Prismatic Painter
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Aurin Azadรฎ
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •๐๏ธ @mirabilos und die anderen #GalgenMasto #GalgenFedi Leute: Wie kriegen wir das umgezogen?
social.growyourown.services/@Fโฆ
Fedi.Tips ๐
2025-09-07 17:51:36
Nelson
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •We really need some alternative to renting domain names.
EDIT: I like the concept of petnames, but I'm sure there are other valid solutions: files.spritely.institute/paperโฆ
Petnames: A humane approach to secure, decentralized naming
files.spritely.instituteClaudius
in reply to Nelson • • •Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to Claudius • • •@claudius @skyfaller
It seems that on some country-based domains people can indeed take it from you before it expires:
defcon.social/@anonax/11516684โฆ
This is just ludicrous, difficult to see why these domains have such stupid rules.
Anonax (@anonax@defcon.social)
DEF CON SocialSam Whited
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •cobalt
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •I was just going to post solely for caregivers today and now Iโm stopped. Iโll read about the workaround suggested. Thanks for bringing this up!
:neuro: Antonius Marie โง
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Pax Ahimsa Gethen
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •cobalt
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •@caregivers
and I will announce a new group if FediGroups.social approves it. See this please @constantorbit
#Caregivers
Urban Camera
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Joyeuses Fesses ๐ฅณ๐
in reply to Urban Camera • • •@uc each TLD has its own renewal policy
afaict, .pe domains are available for registration by anyone 10 days before the actual expiration date
Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to Joyeuses Fesses ๐ฅณ๐ • • •@citronmecha @uc
"pe domains are available for registration by anyone 10 days before the actual expiration date"
That seems like a horrible, horrible policy? ๐ฌ Surely that's just going to help domain squatters?
Urban Camera
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •my thoughts exactly.
@citronmecha
Leeloo
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •@citronmecha @uc
It depends on how you word it.
If you flip it around and say you have 10 days to use your domain to notify your users after you lost "ownership" of it, it's suddenly better than it just being gone.
abeorch
in reply to Joyeuses Fesses ๐ฅณ๐ • •like this
Urban Camera and Jess Robinson like this.
Autistrain
Unknown parent • • •You're right.
Fedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •@punishmenthurts @Autistrain @adelinej
They boost your posts automatically so that your post reaches other people interested in the group's topic.
Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama
in reply to Autistrain • • •.
I havenโt yet figured out what the groups do
Fedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •@Moss
The actual post about it mentions an "upstream registrar" doing this so I don't know if that has some effect?
Fedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •@Moss
This is another possible explanation: rivals.space/@citronmecha/1151โฆ
Joyeuses Fesses ๐ฅณ๐
2025-09-07 18:31:42
dmynerd78
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •(See above post)
Jonathan
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •gemelen
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Baral'heia Stormdancer ฮฮ๐ฒ
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Furbland's Very Cool Mastodonโข
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •normy foxyoreos
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •It's disappointing that FediGroups bans NSFW.
Are there any similar group providers that are more open to broader fediverse communities?
Francois Dion
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Gregory
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •hrbrmstr ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ฑ ๐จ๐ฆ
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •How exactly was the domain name "sold by their registrar before they could renew it"?
Seems like an easy appeal to ICANN if it was registrar malfeasance vs. "oops I forgot to renew this critical identifier in time".
hrbrmstr ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ฑ ๐จ๐ฆ
in reply to hrbrmstr ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ฑ ๐จ๐ฆ • • •Mind you, I don't expect a reply or an answer that isn't โYeah, they just forgot to renew it.โ
If it is the latter, that's a big part of the reason the Fediverse is the way it is rn.
Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to hrbrmstr ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ฑ ๐จ๐ฆ • • •@hrbrmstr
Apparently these are ccTLDs which aren't covered by ICANN:
defcon.social/@anonax/11516684โฆ
Anonax (@anonax@defcon.social)
DEF CON Socialx0
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •WulfyโSpeaker to the machines
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •This domain stealing bullshit by #registrar has to stop.
Fuckers don't even pay the minimum price, I am sure as they domain squat on millions of domains, then declare them "premium" and try to sell them for $1000's
The #TLD system is corrupt.
Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •p.s. For those wondering how this can happen, the .pe domain which gup.pe used has a highly unusual clause which allows anyone to buy the domain 12 days *before* it expires:
"The .CH, .ES, .FR, .LI, .PE, .SG, .COM.SG, .COM.AU, .ORG.AU, .NET.AU TLDs must be renewed 12 days prior to the actual expiration date. If not renewed, the domain will enter the redemption stage right away regardless of the number of days left until expiration."
namecheap.com/support/knowledgโฆ
(Thanks @anonax for info!)
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:debian: ๐๐๐๐๐ :aSnow:
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •holy shit, that's really crap
@anonax
Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to :debian: ๐๐๐๐๐ :aSnow: • • •@selea
It's a very, very odd policy, seems to be just begging domain squatters to exploit it.
Julia Clement
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •@anonax
Holy fuck! That is the nastiest abuse of registrants I have heard in the 20 years since I registered the .com of Kiore, my then nickname, to get the email address I wanted. Luckily neither .com nor .nz which I do use are this grasping, but Switzerland, Spain, France, Liechtenstein, and Australia are all places I would expect to do better.
Kevin Russell
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •@anonax
That's just foul. That needs widespread anti-ads, warnings running often on Mastodon.
Mastodon may one of the biggest collections of new domains anywhere outside crime.
Mastofon needs a "worst of" warning system for bad actors like them.
Gabu!! ๐ปโโ๏ธ ฮฮ
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •xyla ๐ 1636EN57
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •ะั ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •this looks like a fuckin scam. Like, yeah, you rented domain for a year, but actually no, I just stole it. Try buying it back and maybe I'll return it to you
@anonax
Resuna
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •@anonax
What are the vendors alleged rationale for this egregiously abusive policy?
Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to Resuna • • •@resuna
No idea! It makes no sense.
Eckes :mastodon:
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Eli the Bearded
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Pax Ahimsa Gethen
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Not sure if this falls under "enshittification" or something more sinister, but someone needs to publicize this bullshit policy more widely.
Pinging @pluralistic
Travis
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Nik
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •@anonax I believe you are wrong about at least .ch and .li ccTLDs.
mastodon.social/@nikclayton/11โฆ
Nik (@nikclayton@mastodon.social)
MastodonFedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •@bri_seven
I'm so sorry, that is awful! ๐
Gytis Repeฤka
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •What was the registrar they've been using?
So that other would know which company to avoid
Aaron
in reply to Gytis Repeฤka • • •Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to Aaron • • •@hosford42 @gytisrepecka
This is apparently not a registrar problem but a ccTLD problem, anyone using these ccTLDs is at risk of them being bought up to 12 days before expiration:
defcon.social/@anonax/11516684โฆ
Anonax (@anonax@defcon.social)
DEF CON SocialOskar im Keller
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •๐ @dentaku - did you see this โฌ๏ธ?
Also this answer might be relevant (you will know if it really makes sense)
social.mkj.earth/@mkj/11516444โฆ
mkj (@mkj@social.mkj.earth)
MastodonFedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •@regendans
Yeah, I'm just about to rewrite that!
Jaime Herazo
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Fedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •No, because hashtags don't actively push content to other servers.
When you follow a hashtag, it's basically a filter for whatever is on your server anyway. If your server hasn't noticed a particular account yet, it won't notice that account's posts on that hashtag.
When you follow a group, it actively pulls in all posts from anyone on any server that posts to that group.
Groups are basically "super hashtags" in a way ๐
Fedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •@NatureMC
To be fair, the maintainer has said they will cancel subs and issue refunds: github.com/immers-space/guppe/โฆ
Guppe is dead?
mattcoxonline (GitHub)[Flawed] Anarchist โ
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Thats because someone asked them to do it. But a lot more people want them to continue but under a different domain.
Fedigroups sounds like a censorship networks rather than a group feature.
> Groups are expected to conform with standard levels of decency and respect. We will not setup, and/or may remove Groups in the future, which are setup to distribute: hate speech; discrimination; spam; promotion of violence; adult NSFW content; impersonation of people/organizations.
Newsmast Foundation
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •This sucks! So sorry to hear that, the Guppe Groups were a big influence when we first joined the Fediverse. Feel free to reach out if there is anything we can do to help - we also have a feed builder with similar functionality to FediGroups, so perhaps there's some space for us to work together?
home.channel.org/channels
Channels | Channel.org
home.channel.orgRina
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to Rina • • •@Rinakochi
They were federated with Mastodon, there were problems federating with some other Fedi platforms though.
FediGroups is better for compatibility with other Fedi platforms.
BrisWombat
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Misofist
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Fedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •@TKb0iZ
You might want to tag their account to ask about that?
Peter Link ๐๐จ๐บ๐ต๐ธ๐ง
Unknown parent • • •same with me. :/
Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to Peter Link ๐๐จ๐บ๐ต๐ธ๐ง • • •They are really, really busy as they're suddenly getting way more people contacting them than before:
fedigroups.social/@hello/11517โฆ
It's an unpaid volunteer running it and manually checking each application, I think we just need to give them some time to catch up ๐
FediGroups Admin (@hello@fedigroups.social)
FediGroupssunflower mage :dragon_mlem:๐
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •@Curator
I made a FediGroup for artists! Enjoy and feel free to boost!
@drawingfedigroups.social
It's a shame, but FediGroups don't allow NSFW artworks
Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to sunflower mage :dragon_mlem:๐ • • •@MxPoesu
I've been telling people about these new FediGroups (including your one) over on @FediFollows ๐
holothuroid
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to holothuroid • • •Yes, the public groups are listed at:
about.fedigroups.social/directโฆ
You can also find listings at:
fedi.directory/tag/fediverse-gโฆ
Fediverse Discussion Groups | Fedi.Directory โ Interesting accounts on Mastodon & the Fediverse
fedi.directory๐บ ๐ฏ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to ๐บ ๐ฏ๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ • • •@odragaoverde
I am meaning to at some point, but it's a slightly different use case. There's a lot of overlap but the features aren't exactly the same.
Eddie ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ (RESIST)
in reply to Fedi.Tips ๐ • • •is ovo.st a possible replacement?
#fediverse #mastodon @fediverse
Fedi.Tips ๐
in reply to Eddie ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ (RESIST) • • •At a technical level perhaps, but in practice they're running a website at ovo.st which is so barebones that it looks like it is some kind of casual experiment that might shut down at any moment.
If they could build up their website with some info about what they do etc that would be more reassuring about their long term future.
Gup.pe shutting down suddenly was a big shock, it wouldn't help if a replacement shut down unexpectedly too.
ovo.st
ovo.stFedi.Tips ๐
Unknown parent • • •@sam
I think Fedibuzz Relays are mainly meant for server admins rather than something ordinary users follow?
I've covered it in the guide at fedi.tips/using-relays-to-quicโฆ
Using relays, groups, directories and scripts to quickly expand a serverโs view of the Fediverse | Fedi.Tips โ An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
fedi.tipssam โ ๐ฌ๐ช
Unknown parent • • •I recently found relay.fedi.buzz/ #fedibuzz
You can follow an "account" like relay.fedi.buzz/tag/sillyGroupโฆ and then it will boost posts with that hashtag so that you can see them in your timeline.
CC: @FediTips@social.growyourown.services
#FediBuzz Relay
relay.fedi.buzz