European alternatives to Google's Gmail
cross-posted from: europe.pub/post/7501
What European email services do you use?Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.
I have switched from Google's Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼
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bazzzzzzz
in reply to Blaze • • •Why is Kmail in there?
Kmail is a client: it can't host.
OmnomnomOom
in reply to bazzzzzzz • • •🚀 Hébergement Web, Cloud Computing, Serveur Cloud, Nom de domaine, Messagerie, Streaming Radio et plus encore !
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in reply to szczuroarturo • • •Jofus
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •Wasnt this just one message on X? Though I understand Everyone's worries. Isn’t Proton a company with a board of directors and a binding mission statement. I am sincerely wondering if the whole thing isn’t blown up too much. For me I am with proton for now and keeping my ear to the ground concerning any developments. But in short Proton is a safe and secure EU based alternative for Gmail right now, wouldn’t you agree?
Proton’s whole mission statement is based around privacy so it would take a big shift in the company to actually start registering and selling data… at least that’s my perspective. I’m curious to see if any more developments will occur concerning their CEO
meliaesc
in reply to Jofus • • •old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/co…
Here is his response, he only apologized for using the official brand account. It's wise to look for alternatives, and he should suffer Musk like consequences.
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in reply to Blaze • • •SchwertImStein
in reply to rooroo • • •go $fsck yourself
in reply to SchwertImStein • • •Here's the actual tweet so you can see it for yourself
He did praise Trump and platform him, then he praised the Republican party saying they are the party of "the little guys" (small business), which is just flat out wrong. He does not acknowledge that there are an abundance of things Trump is doing that is fucking awful and disgusting. At best it's an extremely tone-deaf tweet.
What that comment does is paint Trump and the Republican party in a very good light and ignores other things they do that are terrible, illegal, and much more important than a single cherry-picked action. That's effectively an endorsement (i.e. ass-kissing) without saying it in exact words.
Also, it's so very obvious that anyone associated with Trump absolutely needs to abide by Trump's every whim or else he will replace you. So, the point he was trying to make is entirely moot in the first place.
There is just no way to praise Trump or the Republican party without showing your ignorance or alignment with them. Just like you can't just have a little bit of shit in your food. Once you've got even a little bit of shit in your food, then you've got shit-food. Or, in this case, a Trump-shit stained CEO's mouth.
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in reply to ysjet • • •archive.ph/xoleo/88d8a1711806e…
ysjet
in reply to Comtief • • •Comtief
in reply to ysjet • • •Do you have any links to the articles and mastodon tweets? I can't find anything atm.
EDIT:
archive.ph/2yWGz
insights.priva.cat/p/a-follow-…
reddit.com/r/AMADisasters/comm…
reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/commen…
techstory.in/proton-mail-faces…
insights.priva.cat/p/a-follow-…
Went through these.. didn't really contradict anything I said, imo. I mean, yes he seems naive in believing that republicans could somehow be more against big tech than democrats... but at the same time, the corporate capture is pretty bad in the USA overall (by bad i mean way too overextended).
If anything, Andy just seems single minded about the issue of big tech and that makes him naive about republicans, but it doesn't look like he is actually supporting them.. yet. Like, he foolishly says what is on his mind with zero regards to optics.
Proton Mail Faces Backlash Over Claims of Political Neutrality Amid CEO’s Praise for Republican Party
Anochie Esther (Techstory Media)ysjet
in reply to Comtief • • •go $fsck yourself
in reply to Comtief • • •Comtief
in reply to go $fsck yourself • • •I agree his tweet was tone deaf, but I don't think it makes him a Trump bootlicker, either.
go $fsck yourself
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in reply to go $fsck yourself • • •Comtief
in reply to rooroo • • •go $fsck yourself
in reply to Comtief • • •What context? There's no other context for this tweet.
The way I see it is that he only cares about how his business and his own ideologies benefit. As long as he gets what he wants, that's what matters. Not everything else that's absolutely horrendous that Trump and the Republican party are doing, and things that show that you can't trust anything they do even if it may seem like a good thing on its face.
At best, tone-deaf, ignorant, and somewhat disrespectful to the people that are and will be suffering from Trump's regime.
That ain't a CEO that I can trust. I'll pass. You do what you want, but it's certainly not overblown or missing context.
Comtief
in reply to go $fsck yourself • • •I'd still take proton over Gmail any day and the private drive thing is nice too, as long as he won't go full pro-Trump, I'm fine with Proton.
I mean, he is not even wrong that democrats are captured by big tech, he just seems naive to think that Republicans are not actually worse.
Also his donating pattern is similar to George Soros, so there is that.
go $fsck yourself
in reply to Comtief • • •I gotcha. Though "as long as he won't go full pro-Trump" seems a bit close for comfort. Maybe he is and he's just toning it down publicly.
Overall, though, I'd rather see people suggesting other options first. Then tossing in Proton as an option along with the context of that tweet showing that he's not exactly reliable and could be not far off from full MAGA.
AlDente
in reply to Comtief • • •For real. Even Bernie Sanders has praised Trump on a single issue before. Are we going to turn against him too?
Donald Trump Gets Unexpected Praise from Bernie Sanders: 'Good Idea'
Donald Trump Gets Unexpected Praise from Bernie Sanders: 'Good Idea'
Monica Sager (Newsweek)go $fsck yourself
in reply to AlDente • • •False equivalence. Bernie has more than enough history of outlining his views on Trump. Yen doesn't have that kind of history, so the tweet reads as an endorsement overall. The fact he's stating that 'Republicans are the party for small businesses' in itself shows how absolutely ignorant he is and willing to drink their bullshit.
That's enough for me to see how he stands. He may not be fully supportive of Trump and the Republicans, but he's shown himself to be beyond the threshold that I am willing to tolerate.
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in reply to Blaze • • •Disroot is based in the netherlands i believe.
disroot.org/en
From their page:
“Disroot is a platform providing online services based on principles of freedom, privacy, federation and decentralization.
No tracking, no ads, no profiling, no data mining!”
Home | Disroot.org
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in reply to Blaze • • •What's up with that misleading information as if there's something missing? This just means you can use any mail application you want with the standard mail protocols IMAP and POP3. If a mail provider is offering an app themselves that's fine but that's nothing a mail provider HAS to offer.
What's much more important is how they handle you data, how good they filter out spam, how big you mailbox can be, cost, sustainability etc. But the app is the least important thing.
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