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European alternatives to Google's Gmail

cross-posted from: europe.pub/post/7501

What European email services do you use?

Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.

I have switched from Google's Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼

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European alternatives to Google's Gmail - Europe Pub

Lemmy
europe.pub
in reply to Blaze

bazzzzzzz
bazzzzzzz
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Why is Kmail in there?

Kmail is a client: it can't host.

in reply to bazzzzzzz

OmnomnomOom
OmnomnomOom
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Because it's not the Kmail you think of, but kmail from them: infomaniak.com/

🚀 Hébergement Web, Cloud Computing, Serveur Cloud, Nom de domaine, Messagerie, Streaming Radio et plus encore !

Infomaniak, le Cloud Ethique - Nous concevons ce qui se fait de mieux en terme d'infrastructure web pour faciliter votre succès. Support local et accessible 7/7
www.infomaniak.com
in reply to OmnomnomOom

pfr
pfr
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Hmmmm likes like a domain host.... Plus productivity suite. I'm confused how to sign up for just and email address
in reply to pfr

Tiger Jerusalem
Tiger Jerusalem
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I think you have to be from the European Union to get a free email, but if you register a domain with them you get a free email attached, no matter where you are.
in reply to Tiger Jerusalem

pfr
pfr
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I looked into that also, but it requires a full name, phone number and address. I'm a bit put off by this.
in reply to Tiger Jerusalem

serenissi
serenissi
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Not EU, only Switzerland, France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Italy, Austria, Spain and Monaco.
in reply to Blaze

szczuroarturo
szczuroarturo
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Just a quick notice about proton here. While it is great, if you tend to forget your passwords be carefull beacuse you will lose all your mail history when you recover. I would reccomend something more casual for casual users.
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in reply to szczuroarturo

ByteOnBikes
ByteOnBikes
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If you use Proton and forget your passwords, it's okay because the Proton CEO openly praised a US president who has a history of breaking privacy laws and is actively antagonizing allies. With that moral compass running Proton, your privacy and security might be compromised at a later date.
in reply to ByteOnBikes

Jofus
Jofus
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Wasnt this just one message on X? Though I understand Everyone's worries. Isn’t Proton a company with a board of directors and a binding mission statement. I am sincerely wondering if the whole thing isn’t blown up too much. For me I am with proton for now and keeping my ear to the ground concerning any developments. But in short Proton is a safe and secure EU based alternative for Gmail right now, wouldn’t you agree?

Proton’s whole mission statement is based around privacy so it would take a big shift in the company to actually start registering and selling data… at least that’s my perspective. I’m curious to see if any more developments will occur concerning their CEO

in reply to Jofus

meliaesc
meliaesc
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old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/co…

Here is his response, he only apologized for using the official brand account. It's wise to look for alternatives, and he should suffer Musk like consequences.

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in reply to Blaze

adbenitez
adbenitez
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If what you want is encrypted email, and see it in the form of a chat, take a look at ArcaneChat

ArcaneChat

Private chats for the family
arcanechat.me
in reply to Blaze

c1a5s1c
c1a5s1c
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Anyone got experience with kMail?
in reply to c1a5s1c

fragrantvegetable
fragrantvegetable
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I've been using them for a bit over a year now and don't have any complaints so far. If you don't care about the office suite, their email only package is €1.50/month for 5 users, which is hard to beat. You can use your own domain too. I like that their web/android clients have a proper conversation view that also shows your replies (like Gmail does). This has been missing from other providers I've tried (except Fastmail). Their android app is on F-Droid and open source which is nice. There were a few odd translations, like "Transfer" instead of "Forward", but I think they've fixed those since. It's not been long enough for me to comment on reliability or missing emails, but so far so good.
in reply to Blaze

BrundleFly2077
BrundleFly2077
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Tuta has been GREAT, so far. Hard recommend.
in reply to BrundleFly2077

Tyde
Tyde
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I just switched over to it from proton. Do not have the issue that their spam filter is abysmally bad? There is so much spam coming though and even mails that I already reported as spam come through. Also the app is kinda slow and clumsy.
in reply to Blaze

rooroo
rooroo
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Fuck Proton and their Trumps-ass-kissing CEO though.
in reply to rooroo

SchwertImStein
SchwertImStein
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yes, one comment saying that republicans do one thing right means exactly what you wrote
in reply to SchwertImStein

go $fsck yourself
go $fsck yourself
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Here's the actual tweet so you can see it for yourself

Image/photo

He did praise Trump and platform him, then he praised the Republican party saying they are the party of "the little guys" (small business), which is just flat out wrong. He does not acknowledge that there are an abundance of things Trump is doing that is fucking awful and disgusting. At best it's an extremely tone-deaf tweet.

What that comment does is paint Trump and the Republican party in a very good light and ignores other things they do that are terrible, illegal, and much more important than a single cherry-picked action. That's effectively an endorsement (i.e. ass-kissing) without saying it in exact words.

Also, it's so very obvious that anyone associated with Trump absolutely needs to abide by Trump's every whim or else he will replace you. So, the point he was trying to make is entirely moot in the first place.

There is just no way to praise Trump or the Republican party without showing your ignorance or alignment with them. Just like you can't just have a little bit of shit in your food. Once you've got even a little bit of shit in your food, then you've got shit-food. Or, in this case, a Trump-shit stained CEO's mouth.

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Comtief
Comtief
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archive.ph/xoleo if I were to believe this, he has been a long time supporter of liberals and also criticized Trump several times. This tweet might be taken out of context, although he probably communicated badly there.
in reply to Comtief

ysjet
ysjet
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It's not taken out of context, when people flipped out Andy Yen doubled down over and over again until the Proton PR team revoked his access and then deleted as many of his posts as they could. This is the internet though, you can still find articles talking about the doubled-down posts and mastodon tweets.
in reply to ysjet

Comtief
Comtief
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Doubled down on what exactly?
archive.ph/xoleo/88d8a1711806e…
in reply to Comtief

ysjet
ysjet
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That's not the double down, he kept posting big huge paragraphs praising the Republican party and using some very maga-soindijg sound bites. I'll try to come back to this later and provide some sources that actually reference some of the now-deleted posts, I'm currently stuck in a waiting room. Not gonna try to do that level of research on a phone lol.
in reply to ysjet

Comtief
Comtief
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Do you have any links to the articles and mastodon tweets? I can't find anything atm.
EDIT:
archive.ph/2yWGz

insights.priva.cat/p/a-follow-…

reddit.com/r/AMADisasters/comm…

reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/commen…

techstory.in/proton-mail-faces…

insights.priva.cat/p/a-follow-…

Went through these.. didn't really contradict anything I said, imo. I mean, yes he seems naive in believing that republicans could somehow be more against big tech than democrats... but at the same time, the corporate capture is pretty bad in the USA overall (by bad i mean way too overextended).
If anything, Andy just seems single minded about the issue of big tech and that makes him naive about republicans, but it doesn't look like he is actually supporting them.. yet. Like, he foolishly says what is on his mind with zero regards to optics.


Proton Mail Faces Backlash Over Claims of Political Neutrality Amid CEO’s Praise for Republican Party

Anochie Esther (Techstory Media)
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in reply to Blaze

webghost0101
webghost0101
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Disroot is based in the netherlands i believe.

disroot.org/en

From their page:

“Disroot is a platform providing online services based on principles of freedom, privacy, federation and decentralization.

No tracking, no ads, no profiling, no data mining!”

Home | Disroot.org

disroot.org
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jinwk00
jinwk00
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Apparently not all their services have full encryption (I think their forgejo is unencrypted and plain text?)
in reply to Blaze

einsfuenfzigbreit
einsfuenfzigbreit
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  • only web app
  • needs client app


What's up with that misleading information as if there's something missing? This just means you can use any mail application you want with the standard mail protocols IMAP and POP3. If a mail provider is offering an app themselves that's fine but that's nothing a mail provider HAS to offer.
What's much more important is how they handle you data, how good they filter out spam, how big you mailbox can be, cost, sustainability etc. But the app is the least important thing.

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