Managing proxmox, virtual machines, and others
Hey all, just hoping to get some advice on any software out there that can help me keep on top of all the VMs i'm running on my Proxmox instances, and potentially my other machines I have too.
I'm looking for a way to help me stay on top of updates and things like when the machine was last online, last rebooted etc etc. There are commercial products for such a thing, and I don't necessarily want to install any sort of Agent on each of the machines (if I can avoid it).
I looked at something like Homarr, but not sure if that's what i'm really after.
What recommendations do all you have?
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AnIntenseMoist
in reply to Matty_r • • •Very few things out there don't require an agent. TacticalRMM is a decent self-hosted device management platform, but I don't really trust them after some controversy with an embedded Monero miner in the agent (has since been removed, but come on).
MeshCentral is what TRMM uses for its remoting and its pretty robust, but doesn't do patch management on its own. If most of your infrastructure is Linux, you can easily handle it yourself though.
TBH, manual management would be the easiest if your infrastructure is small enough.
tofu
in reply to Matty_r • • •Ansible doesn't need an agent besides python and can take care of most kinds of updates. You have to run/schedule it regularly though. It's pretty good for updating multiple hosts at once (assuming they mostly have the same OSes).
For uptime, CPU etc you mostly need agents but Proxmox also shows some of these in the UI.
ryokimball
in reply to tofu • • •AWX is basically Ansible as a service.
Wait. That sounds dumb. Hosted and centralized Ansible?
Idk. Brain not braining. Just saying, it's worth checking out.
tofu
in reply to ryokimball • • •Possibly linux
in reply to ryokimball • • •Matty_r
in reply to tofu • • •conrad82
in reply to Matty_r • • •They were talking about something similar on episode 38 of hybridcloudshow.com/ I think. I see that it is not out yet, I got it early because I pay for the subscription. When it comes out you could give it a listen
I didn't catch everything, but Ansible might be worth looking into
Hybrid Cloud Show
hybridcloudshow.comMatty_r
in reply to conrad82 • • •cecilkorik
in reply to Matty_r • • •Matty_r
in reply to cecilkorik • • •Taasz/Woof
in reply to Matty_r • • •I run debian on everything, so I set up
unattended-upgradesfor security updates and basically forget about it. Docker updates are also automatic with Komodo, just make sure databases are pinned to a major version.For monitoring my services I use Uptime Kuma, and get an alert if a service goes down so I can fix it.
Been pretty solid for years now. Things get rebooted every month or two when I do a Proxmox upgrade and reboot the host.
jimmy90
in reply to Matty_r • • •Podman inside Nixos inside LXC inside Proxmox
Auto updates configurable everywhere
Lka1988
in reply to jimmy90 • • •y tho
If you're running Proxmox already,, just spin up a VM for Podman/Docker and set up
unattended-upgrades. Boom, done. You don't need a whole lot of CPU or RAM for that, either.TheUniverseandNetworks
in reply to Matty_r • • •As others have said, if your VMs are Linux, set up unattended_updates and forget about it.
If your VMs are windows, then Action1 is free up to 200 clients, it does need an agent installed, but that auto updates too.
koala
in reply to TheUniverseandNetworks • • •Yep, I do that on Debian hosts, EL (RHEL/Rocky/etc.) have a similar feature.
However, you need to keep an eye for updates that require a reboot. I use my own Nagios agent that (among other things) sends me warnings when hosts require a reboot (both apt/dnf make this easy to check).
I wouldn't care about last online/reboots; I just do some basic monitoring to get an alert if a host is down. Spontaneous reboots would be a sign of an underlying issue.
OminousOrange
in reply to Matty_r • • •I use Ultimate Updater connected to gotify to tell me which machines have updates with a noti every day. I can then run
updateand it will take snapshots and upgrade everything when needed.It really only does linux systems and wont do docker, but there's watchtower (the one that's still alive) to do that.
GitHub - BassT23/Proxmox: Update your Proxmox VE
GitHubMatty_r
in reply to OminousOrange • • •GitHub - BassT23/Proxmox: Update your Proxmox VE
GitHubOminousOrange
in reply to Matty_r • • •Matty_r
in reply to OminousOrange • • •Possibly linux
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